SALVATION - UNEARNED, ETERNAL, ENDURING

The basis for my belief on Salvation.

“My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.” John 10:27-29
The Christian Research Institute mirrors my belief and points to other passages which build a case which confirms the eternal condition of the Lord's flock.

God chose me before I chose Him. Why, me? NOT a CluE! But, He doesn't make mistakes.
I suppose I will throw this up on a post for others to consider. Maybe, it will help another Christian to better understand their relationship with their adoptive Heavenly Father.

Can Christians lose their salvation?

by Christian Research Institute

Broadcasts of The Bible Answer Man - Hank Hanegraaff

"Sincere believers are sharply divided on this question. Some say Christians can lose their salvation and subsequently must be born again and again if they fall away. Others contend that true believers cannot lose their salvation through sin, but they can apostatize or walk away from their salvation. Still others hold that salvation begins at the moment of conversion (not death) and continues for all eternity—I hold this view for several reasons."

Source: Can Christians Lose Their Salvation?

APPLE REMOVES CHRISTIAN APP MANHATTAN DECLARATION

In an attempt to completely erase God and everything He stands for a societal kingpin, Apple, pulls out it's big eraser and removes one of it's few redeeming products - The Manhattan Declaration.
This product "speaks in defense of the sanctity of life, traditional marriage, and religious liberty. It issues a clarion call to Christians to adhere firmly to their convictions in these three areas".
The sodomite organization called Change.org made the complaint that the Apple App, The Manhattan Declaration, was promoting good, moral God-centered family values and found that to be very offensive to their sinful, sons-of-Satan sodomy loving life styles.

"Late last week, Apple quietly removed the Manhattan Declaration app, which had been available since mid-October, after an online petition was circulated calling the app a "hate fest" and saying that the Manhattan Declaration pushes "hateful and divisive language." The petition, which originated on Change.org, wished to tell Apple "that supporting homophobia and efforts to restrict choice is bad business."" SOURCE: FOXNATION

The Innocent Blood The LORD Would Not Pardon

"In his days Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up, and Jehoiakim became his vassal for three years. Then he turned and rebelled against him. 2 And the LORD sent against him raiding bands of Chaldeans, bands of Syrians, bands of Moabites, and bands of the people of Ammon; He sent them against Judah to destroy it, according to the word of the LORD which He had spoken by His servants the prophets. 3 Surely at the commandment of the LORD this came upon Judah, to remove them from His sight because of the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he had done, 4 and also because of the innocent blood that he had shed; for he had filled Jerusalem with innocent blood, which the LORD would not pardon." 2 Kings 24

Submission? ... Romans - think!!

"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgement on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience sake. Because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing. Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor" Rom 13:1-7

Tricky business, applying scripture to current events. Could the first couple of lines indicate that whomever resists the Obama regime is resisting God? And, will surely bring judgement upon themselves? By application, Obama is not a terror to good works and he is a terror to those who do evil - like abortionists?? .... hmmm.... something is not jiving with this model of application. Obama seems to approve of baby murder so much that he has authorized the distribution of the tax money I give to him, for the good of America, to instead do evil worldwide in the form of billions of dollars for baby butchering abortionists in other nations.

How can this be? Obama is God's minister to us for good? Murdering babies is good? Obama is an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil? What, he will execute wrath upon his own self? Things seem to be a bit twisted. Is it possible that this bit of scripture, and others like it, cannot be applied at all times and in all situations?

A side thought: Obama has not yet produced a valid birth certificate to qualify as a presidential candidate. Why not, Mr. Obama? Such a simple thing to do to satisfy the now numerous active law suits against you by concerned American citizens. Why no birth certificate? I do not accept this breach of the Constitution of the United States of America. Should I accept a man who would take the office of President by pistol and force - a coup? I think not! Yet, there he is! How can this be? Only by the hand of an angry God? How many babies have we butchered?... ?

The prophet Jeremiah had to endure an evil ruler. He was captive and even imprisoned for speaking the truth of God. The promise of a restored nation gave him hope; of a restored nation after the ravages of evil rulers had left but a remnant of God's people to rebuild.

"Thus says the Lord: 'Again there shall be heard in this place - of which you say, "It is desolate, without man and without beast" - in the cities of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem that are desolate without man and without inhabitant and without beast, the voice of joy and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, the voice of those who will say: " Praise the Lord of hosts, For the Lord is good, For His Mercy endures forever" - and of those who will bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the Lord. For I will cause the captives of the land to return as at the first', says the Lord."Thus says the Lord of hosts: 'In this place which is desolate, without man and without beast, and in all it's cities, there shall again be a dwelling place of shepherds causing their flocks to lie down." Jer33 10-12

Well, I wonder, is history to be repeated again? If we are to submit to evil - or perish - is God going to remove the evil rulers after a time and only a remnant of Godly people are left in captivity? Will a day come in America where the shepherds and their flocks can safely dwell? Or, are we waiting for something that shall never come till His Kingdom comes?

'Til then, I am not sure what to do with this command of submission... except, definitely, to pray.

Purpose Driven Porn King - Rick Warren Blesses Obama?

I might do better to stick to softer material. Topics like 'narrow is the way and few will enter'. Or, ' To the lukewarm church I will vomit you out'. Or, 'If you say you love Him, but, do not do what He says, than you are a liar and Christ is not in you'. Or, 'cast into Hell for an eternity'...

Well, when I heard the news today that Rick Warren is going to bless Obama on his coronation day, I could do nothing but wonder where all this rage from within me is coming from. I have known the Purpose Driven pastor to be very unrepresentative of Christianity as I understand it. Actually, by his actions I wonder if he is in Christ at all. The Purpose Driven god is a god in it's own eyes and has led many congregations way off course from the way of holiness.

Why the harsh words? I would not bore you with what little I know about Warren and his sham 'christian' ministry, but, instead invite you to Google a few key words which should provide you with a plethora of information to convince you that Warren is a bought and sold pseudo man of a god - not sure which, either money, porn, power, or .... ?

Here are your key words:

• Murdoch
• purpose driven church
• porn

Or, follow these links... and, take note: Murdoch controls much of the media which promoted Obama and the liberal candidates this election. Just what is going on in this Christian nation?

Christian Accountability Network: Purpose-Driven Pornography www.christianaccountabilitynetwork.com/2007/05/purposedriven_p.html

Critics chide Warren, 'pastor' of Murdoch, over porn channels www.newshounds.us/2006/12/24/rick_warren_and_rupert_murdoch_merge_their_purpose_driven_lives.php

"The Purpose Driven Church books and most of the programs are published by Rupert Murdoch, who owns 175 newspapers worldwide, and a large percentage of the television and communications industry. He also owns several magazines, some of which have been classified as pornographic." http://www.scionofzion.com/purpose_driven.htm

Dubroom: Articles - The Dark Side Of The Purpose Driven Church
The Dark Side Of The Purpose Driven Church. Rick Warren, author of the best- selling Purpose Driven Series, calls himself "Rupert Murdoch's Pastor".

Watcher's Lamp: Purpose Driven Scandal UPDATE #2
May 8, 2007 ... Rick Warren Called to Discipline Murdoch for Pornography Channels ... Purpose Driven Away From Immanuel Baptist Church ...

Mega-Church Pastor Rick Warren Under Fire over Media Mogul ...
May 11, 2007 ... "Rupert Murdoch is a born-again Christian and Rick Warren claims to be his pastor," ... The book in question was The Purpose Driven Church, ...


Is Your Church Going Purpose Driven?
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLPurpose Driven Church books are pub-. lished by Zondervan, one of Rupert. Murdoch’s many properties, including. 175 newspapers and international tele

A Little Leaven: Purpose Driven Madness
This Purpose-Driven Church Has "Friends in Low Places" .... We're sure that you are aware that NewsCorp, which is owned by Murdoch, sells more pornographic ...

Should Your Church Implement the Purpose Driven Church Model ...
Feb 12, 2007 ... Without the Purpose Driven Church Model, Rick Warren would be ...... And he has Rupert Murdoch and a top-shelf publicist to protect his ...

Christian Research Net
Sep 1, 2007 ... Rupert Murdoch Has NOTHING to Say to Christ’s Church! .... Rupert Murdoch’s Purpose Driven Pastor Rick Warren is Now Way Out of Bounds ...

Pastor Rick Warren: The Purpose Driven Deceptionist (August 23, 2008)
Aug 23, 2008 ... I refer to Pastor Rick Warren, Saddleback Community Church in .... Satan's Purpose—Exposing Rick Warren's Purpose-Driven Movement as an ...

The Destruction of the Southern Baptist Convention - John S. Torell
Dec 7, 2007 ... This leads us to Rupert Murdoch, a member of Saddleback Church where .... On page 164 of “The Purpose Driven Life” he says the following: ...

PURPOSE DRIVEN UNVEILED
Jan 25, 2008 ... It is because I am concerned about the direction that purpose driven emerging church Christianity is leading Bible-believing Christianity ...

Posts by LibertyinChrist
Rick Warren Called to Discipline Murdoch for Pornography Channels .... Who’s Driving the Purpose Driven Church? Bible Belt Publishing, Oklahoma City, ...

The Flaws of a Fad-Driven Church, Part 2 :: Grace to You
bracelets, and Purpose-Driven merchandise (complete with the authorized ... out by men like Rupert Murdoch and made part of huge secular publishing empires. ...

Three Purposes of Christmas - Christianity Today magazine ...
Over Christmas eve and Christmas day, Murdoch's Fox News Channel will air .... I 'm taking The Purpose-Driven Church, and I'm going back into writing mode on ...

Shaping the Minds of the Youth
Murdoch's corporation, also owner of Fox News, has been a major catalyst for Purpose Driven Life and now, we see, for the emerging church through Zondervan. ...

NEWS NOTES 05/18/2007
May 18, 2007 ... out of the church.’ ... Murdoch also owns Zondervan, the company that published Warren’s explosive bestseller The Purpose Driven Life.

Extreme Theology:
Is it because Murdoch published "The Purpose Driven Life"? ... If Murdoch refuses to repent then he should be put out of the church. ...

Why Rick Warren Must Publicly Rebuke Rupert Murdoch at Christian ...
Published May 4th, 2007 by Ken Silva in Purpose Driven, Rick Warren ... has a Biblical duty to call Murdoch to repentance and/or put him out of the church. ...


Rick Warren is blessing Obama and his crowning? What a laugh. Actually, I don't think I could have picked a better man of his god to do the job. Maybe I should have titled this article, " Just who did buy Obama's seat? - Rupert? Soros? Geffen?

Newsflash - Jesus Votes For Obama!

Who raised up Obama?
Seemingly, only by a miracle could such a man be elected -

• Unknown (not even an original birth certificate - yet)
• Under qualified (no executive experience at all - nothing)
• Disqualified (with his known alliances with convicted terrorists and radical racists he could not even pass a test to become his own body guard)
• Anti-Christian (pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-socialist - yes, capitalism is a God created economy and America is a Christian nation... contrary to Obama's opinion)

Let us not forget who turned water into wine. Obama presiding over a Christian nation? Nebuchadnezzar presided over Judah! And, God put both of these wicked men in their place of power. God is in control - always. There was a good, godly purpose for such an ungodly man as Nebuchadnezzar to 'clean house' in Judah. There is a good, godly purpose for such an ungodly man as Obama to lead America to her destruction.

I wonder, were I to walk with Jesus on election day to the voting booth would I be able to look Him in the eye and say to my Lord, "I am voting for Obama. I know he will approve the murder of innocent babies and the marriage of homosexual people , but, I want change."
I wonder, would He reply to me, "I am voting for Obama, too. In fact, I have raised Him up to bring this wicked people to their desired destruction. This generation has worshipped Me in vain by lifting up men seeking a profit in My name upon their pulpit; women pastors seeking power as preachers of my Holy word; gay ministers seeking to twist the truth of My word within the church."

Click here to read on

On Target Article on Christian Newswire - Obama is the one.

The Best Thing Happened To End Black Genocide
The People in Darkness Will See a Great Light > click here for the whole story.
WASHINGTON, November 17 /Christian Newswire/ Contact: Rev Clenard H. Childress Jr--
"Now is the time to ride the wave of the Spirit of social justice and free those who have been unlawfully sentenced to die. Yes, now is the time! We can never think God has not heard the silent cries of innocent blood being shed. That cry ascends to His merciful ear day after day. November 4th, 2008 will always be remembered for the election of Barack Obama, the most pro-abortion presidential candidate in the history of the United States. I was quickened with the understanding it will also mark the day of the greatest opportunity ever to have been handed me, as well as other Civil Rights Activists for the unborn. No, it's not what I asked for, but it's what I have been praying for since I first heard of the holocaust levied against babies in America and especially those in the African-American Community.
With the election of Barack Obama, we now have a face to put on the abortion plague and a link to the leader of the abortion industry, Planned Parenthood."

Save a Baby! Vote Pro Life

"No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Mat 6:24

It is disturbing that some who claim God's high calling in Christ Jesus are okay with voting for a pro-murder candidate! Abortion is murder; it is not really the act of aborting when an innocent life is destroyed; it is really murder - really, think about it... murder!

What possible excuse could anybody have to cut a little person to pieces with scissors; burn to death with an extreme salt solution; pull from his or her mother's womb feet first, have a sharp instrument thrust into the base of the skull scrambling the brain, and then sucking the little ones skull empty with a vacuum!? Or, what justification is there to leave a little person who survives a botched abortion in a dirty linen closet to die alone and unloved?

Either you serve God or you don't. Either you vote for life or you vote for murder. What kind of people are we that this election year might elect into office a monster who murders helpless innocent little people? Examine his record - Examine yourself - Go vote pro life!

The Way of Holiness Is Not a One-Way Street

For several years I lived on a narrow street in Cleveland, Ohio which should have been made a one-way street. With parked cars on it most of the time there was just barely enough room for two cars coming in opposite directions to pass one another. Quite often, one of the passing vehicles would jump the curb and drive partially upon the narrow curb lawns to avoid a collision. It was hard to keep that piece of lawn looking nice with the constant intrusion of vehicle tires, though I could not really get too upset at the drivers considering their predicament.

In my walk with the Lord, I've noticed that the Way of Holiness is not a one-way street! It seems to be full of two-way traffic and, even, parked Christians.

That observation surprised me, at first. How could anyone wish to park upon the Way, let alone, turn around and head back to where it is that they were delivered from? But, after having a look at my own progress upon the Lord's road, I am grateful that He does not ticket or tow violators upon His holy Way.

I am one of the worst motorists. The time I spend parked along the side of the Way getting in every other Christian's way is sinful. My actions cause others to momentarily end up off the Way as they try to navigate around me. Even worse, I am sure I somehow have not been so sure which way I was supposed to be going on the Way to Holiness.

I think I understand why He has not made the Way of Holiness a one-way street. If we are faithful to confess our sins, He is faithful to forgive. I am, too often, a reckless Christian who even spends too much time parked on the Way of Holiness grumbling about how narrow the Way seems to be.

Thank God for His mercy and grace!